It's about all these different artists and their relationship with their dream. And... The health of their relationship that they have with their dream, with their art, right? (...) The metaphor for the dream is the seagull. Treplyov falls in love with Nina, calls her his seagull, that's his dream, to be with her. And... When she won't love him, because she's in love with a more successful, older writer, what he does is he goes and kills... fucking... he shoots a seagull and gives it to her, right? And for me what that play is always about is that the way to have a healthy relationship with your dream is like a seagull. There's no such thing as a seagull that you can have as a pet. It needs to be wild. It needs to out in front of you. You need to be chasing it. It needs to be going in different directions and you can't... The only way you can touch it or attain it, is you gotta kill it. And by killing it it's over, man. Like, you have to chase it. You ...